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#1 soundoff

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 02:14 AM

http://www.cancernet...cml-medications

Patient Beliefs Tied to Suboptimal Adherence to CML Medications

News | June 15, 2015 | Chronic Myeloid Leukemia, ASCO 2015, ASCO 2015 Hematology, Hematologic Malignancies, Leukemia & Lymphoma

By Cancer Network Staff

Beliefs regarding medication for chronic myeloid leukemia (CML) are strongly correlated with adherence to those medications, according to a study (abstract 9558) presented at the 2015 American Society of Clinical Oncology (ASCO) Annual Meeting held May 29 to June 2 in Chicago.

Tyrosine kinase inhibitors (TKIs) have dramatically changed outcomes with CML, but their use is generally considered lifelong. "Suboptimal adherence is common and adversely affects clinical outcomes and healthcare costs," wrote study authors led by Joanne S. Buzaglo, PhD, of Cancer Support Community in Philadelphia, on their poster. "Patients with suboptimal adherence might under-recognize missed dose impact on response."

The new study used data from the Cancer Experience Registry, a database of over 7,600 cancer survivors; it included nine disease-specific surveys, including one for CML. In this analysis, 393 CML patients who enrolled in the registry from October 2013 to July 2014 and answered a survey (81% response rate) were included. The median age of the participants was 59 years, most were female (68%) and white (90%).

The participants were asked to agree or disagree with two statements: "It is okay to miss a dose of my CML medicine every now and then," and "I need to take every dose of CML medicine or it might not work." They also reported missed TKI dose frequency.

Nineteen percent of the cohort reported missing a dose of oral CML medication at least once per month; 14% said they postponed filling prescriptions, and 10% said they skipped dosages of prescribed CML medication.

With regard to the first statement, 74% strongly agreed that it is okay to miss a dose every now and then; 34% agreed, 15% disagreed, and 6% strongly disagreed. Compared with the participants who either disagreed or strongly disagreed with the statement, those who agreed or strongly agreed were more likely to have reported missing doses monthly, with an odds ratio (OR) of 7.04 (95% confidence interval [CI], 3.65-13.57).

A similar result was seen with regard to the second statement. Thirty-two percent of participants strongly disagreed that they need to take every dose or it might not work, while 45% disagreed; 22% agreed with the statement, and 5% strongly agreed. Those who disagreed/strongly disagreed were significantly more likely to have reported missing doses at least once monthly than those who agreed/strongly agreed (OR = 5.36; 95% CI, 2.81-10.2).

The authors concluded that these patients' beliefs regarding medication are strongly associated with suboptimal adherence. "The results suggest the need for multifaceted patient education that could have a positive impact on adherence and survival," they wrote.

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#2 chrissy778

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 06:14 AM

I have been taking Gleevec since Aug 2013. Since then I have missed two pills, once I had a high fever and the Dr advised me not to take it that night and another time I could not remember if I already took my pill. So then I still don't know if I truly missed it. I now write the dates on each individual pill on the packet like someone on here suggested.  Who would think it was ok to not take the medicine that is saving their life and risk resistance, not this girl


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Posted 20 June 2015 - 02:20 PM

Heck I worry about not taking my doses exactly 12 hours apart

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 02:25 PM

LOL yeah no worries here I'm not stupid. 12 hours apart to the minute and never miss a dose. No food 2 hours before and no food 1 hour after. Pain in the a$$ but don't care... Living life

10/01/2014 100% Diagnosis (WBC 278k, Blasts 6%, Spleen extended 20cm)

01/02/2015 0.06% Tasigna 600mg
04/08/2015 0.01% Tasigna 600mg
07/01/2015 0.01% Tasigna 600mg
10/05/2015 0.02% Tasigna 600mg
01/04/2016 0.01% Tasigna 600mg
04/04/2016 PCRU Tasigna 600mg
07/18/2016 PCRU Tasigna 600mg
10/12/2016 PCRU Tasigna 600mg
01/09/2017 PCRU Tasigna 600mg
04/12/2017 PCRU Tasigna 600mg
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Posted 20 June 2015 - 03:53 PM

Ive missed a few times, but my Onc says being in compliance with adherence doesnt mean NEVER missing a dose.  It was more like 5 times per month or something*.

 

As to the 12 hours apart - thats more to keep excess OUT of your system (for the whole sudden death thing :P ).  I take mine 10-12 hours apart and my Onc seems fine with that, too.  As to the mealtime stuff, I am pretty religous about that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*not sure its that many, but I know its more than zero.  When I told him I missed two doses in 3 months, he said thats "fine".


January 15: .53%

April 15:       .78%

July 15:      1.1% - upped dosage to 400mg after this test

Oct 15:       .85%

December 15:  .28%

March 16: .29%

July 16: .34%

October 16: .11%

January 17: .081%

April 17: .055%

July 17: .135%

Oct 17: .008%


#6 Antilogical

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Posted 20 June 2015 - 07:41 PM

I missed 1 dose in 3.5 years, the day of my knee replacement.  I still feel guilty about that.


Dx: Sudden severe anemia detected 07/2011, followed by WBC spike. CML Dx 02/2012.

Rx: 03/2012-Gleevec400.  Reduced 02/2013 to Gleevec300 due to side effects (low blood counts).

Response: PCR-Und within 7 mo. on G400. Maintained MMR4-MMR4.5 on G300. PCR-Und since 02/2016.


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Posted 21 June 2015 - 01:30 PM

I missed 1 dose in 3.5 years, the day of my knee replacement.  I still feel guilty about that.

 

A bit over 3 years since dx, took 300mg one day, and 200mg one day, so ive missed 300mg in over 3 years. I also feel guilty, and have some thoughts on sneeking in an extra 100mg 3 times to justify it to myself. Then ill be "even"



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Posted 21 June 2015 - 10:01 PM

Hi,

So I have read that if you are PCRU and stop taking the Meds, that If CML begins to return, then going back on medication usually results in a return to PCRU in a reasonable length of time, so should it not follow that missing a dose is more critical in the early stages of treatment? rather then later?

 

Missing a dose is not too critical - as long as it doesn't become a habit while trending downward in PCR. And you are correct that missing a dose in the early stages is more of an issue than in the later stages. The reality is some patients are forced to stop taking their TKI for one reason or another (side effects, blood count problems, and other reasons) and are able to resume with great success as their body adjusts and the issue(s) resolves. The key is blast count. If a patient has little or no blasts when cessation begins and is otherwise in chronic phase then time is on the patients side when it comes to missing a dose or two and then resuming. 

 

According to M.D. Anderson, they tend to see a one log jump upwards in PCR in one months time when a patient stops treatment while in PCRU and cessation doesn't hold. This is the reason why they want to test at one month intervals during cessation events - so they can catch the increase and resume medication with near 100% success in resuming the trend downward back to PCRU.

 

This is why missing a dose or two in a months time is more psychological than physical - especially when a patient is -4.5 log.


Diagnosed 11 May 2011 (100% FiSH, 155% PCR)

with b2a2 BCR-ABL fusion transcript coding for the 210kDa BCR-ABL protein

 

Sprycel: 20 mg per day - taken at lights out with Quercetin and/or Magnesium Taurate

6-8 grams Curcumin C3 complex.

 

2015 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

2016 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale) 

March        2017 PCR:     0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

June          2017 PCR:     "undetected"

September 2017 PCR:     "undetected"


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 05:07 AM

Diagnosis 31 August 2012 - number of doses missed - none.  Who'd take the chance!  I know that some people have had to stop for sound medical reasons and don't think that this should be classed as non compliance though!

 

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 07:33 AM

I always wonder about not so much missing a dose, but more so taking a supplement or eating something that reduces the effectiveness of the TKI. I recently was treated for a peptic ulcer and had to take a PPI for a week which is a known problem. Also I was told to stop taking magnesium any where near my dosage as it is also a known problem. So what about the thousands of supplements on the market that have yet to be identified as interacting with the TKI. I could be nullifying my medication without even knowing it.

 

Magnesium? Known problem? Do you recall who told you this. Every TKI is bound using magnesium (magnesium stearate). I was told by my Oncologist to take 400mg of magnesium (as Citrate and/or Taurate) along with Sprycel to ease muscle cramping (which it did). Perhaps it was some other supplement you were referring?


Diagnosed 11 May 2011 (100% FiSH, 155% PCR)

with b2a2 BCR-ABL fusion transcript coding for the 210kDa BCR-ABL protein

 

Sprycel: 20 mg per day - taken at lights out with Quercetin and/or Magnesium Taurate

6-8 grams Curcumin C3 complex.

 

2015 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

2016 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale) 

March        2017 PCR:     0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

June          2017 PCR:     "undetected"

September 2017 PCR:     "undetected"


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Posted 22 June 2015 - 11:37 AM

Yikes! Also worried about taking with gleevec.
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088

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Posted 22 June 2015 - 07:30 PM

Most antacids like TUMS are calcium, not magnesium. Milk of magnesia is not an antacid but a laxative. I wonder if your doc meant calcium/magnesium supplements since they're both in most supplements.
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088

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Posted 23 June 2015 - 09:34 AM

this from drugs.com

 

Magnesium hydroxide is used as a laxative to relieve occasional constipation (irregularity) and as an antacid to relieve indigestion, sour stomach, and heartburn.

 

Not all "magnesium" compounds are the same. Magnesium hydroxide is a "base" and will neutralize acid. So it is an antacid. Magnesium Citrate is not a base and will not act as an antacid. Magnesium Taurate (the best of the Magnesium supplements) is sort of an amino acid and acts like an acid. It behaves the opposite of magnesium hydroxide. These compounds deliver Mg2+ ion to the blood where its cation activity helps in nerve transmissions necessary to effect muscle contractions. This is why you get muscle cramps (and some heart arrhythmias) when magnesium is depleted. TKI's deplete magnesium. Magnesium Taurate is the best one followed by Citrate.

 

I have been taking Magnesium for years on the recommendation of Dr. Cortes (citrate and Taurate, but now just taurate) with my Sprycel at the same time (when I was taking Sprycel - I no longer take Sprycel, but continue taking the Magnesium). I achieved great results on only 20mg Sprycel and eliminated muscle cramping.

 

So it is important to know what "magnesium" you are taking and your doctor should know the difference as well.


Diagnosed 11 May 2011 (100% FiSH, 155% PCR)

with b2a2 BCR-ABL fusion transcript coding for the 210kDa BCR-ABL protein

 

Sprycel: 20 mg per day - taken at lights out with Quercetin and/or Magnesium Taurate

6-8 grams Curcumin C3 complex.

 

2015 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

2016 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale) 

March        2017 PCR:     0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

June          2017 PCR:     "undetected"

September 2017 PCR:     "undetected"


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Posted 24 June 2015 - 11:34 PM

I've missed about 5 times in 5 year's but only half of a days does since I take Tasigna twice daily...So I can't really say I've not taken a TKI every day for the last 5 years.

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Posted 27 June 2015 - 10:35 AM

Never missed a dose in 1 year and a half. sometimes i took my meds 40, 45 minutes after the schedule but i really don't like to do this and feel bad about it.



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Posted 05 July 2015 - 09:00 AM

I miss most often on Fridays... probably three times monthly.



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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:41 AM

Missed a dose this week. Just spacey. Have to say I noticed I'd missed because I didn't feel nauseous that day, checked, and sure enough, it was in the case!
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 07:12 PM

I missed a couple of doses for the three and a bit years I was on Gleevec, mainly through throwing it up. :)



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Posted 05 July 2015 - 10:00 PM

I missed a couple of doses for the three and a bit years I was on Gleevec, mainly through throwing it up. :)

I have been taking Gleevec since March 2014 and I have never missed a dose.


Diagnosed March 2014

Imatinib 400 mg. Summer 2014, Imatinib 300 mg.

 

% BCR-ABL

IS-NCN

 

06/01/16     0.18%

24/02/16     0.11%

23/03/16     0.13%

12/05/16     0.07%

13/07/16     0.17%

12/09/16     0.12%

21/19/16     0.15%

23/11/16     0.09%

20/12/16     0.11%

19/01/17     0.07%

21/02/17     0.07%

20/03/17     0.06%

20/04/17     0.06%

20/05/17     0.07%

20/06/17     0.06%

23/08/17     0.08%

22/12/17     0.04%

 

 

 

 


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 11:42 PM

I have been taking Gleevec since March 2014 and I have never missed a dose.

 

Sadly sometimes when you're vomiting close to taking the Gleevec there isn't much you can do. :)






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