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#1 chiocchi

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 11:49 AM

I've been on gleevec for 5 years and it's doing it's job. My cramping has gotten worse,more so at night but can happen during daytime too. Anyone with advice? I do take tramadol for arthritic pain and generalized discomfort.

#2 Trey

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 07:03 PM

If you are PCR undetectable (PCRU) then you should ask your Onc about reducing the dosage.  My Gleevec cramps improved when I dropped from 400mg to 200mg daily.  The other alternative is to split the dosage 200mg morning and evening, which might help a bit. 



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Posted 17 November 2014 - 08:19 PM

Try tonic water.  It helps a bit.


Dx: Sudden severe anemia detected 07/2011, followed by WBC spike. CML Dx 02/2012.

Rx: 03/2012-Gleevec400.  Reduced 02/2013 to Gleevec300 due to side effects (low blood counts).

Response: PCR-Und within 7 mo. on G400. Maintained MMR4-MMR4.5 on G300. PCR-Und since 02/2016.


#4 gerry

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 08:23 PM

I found it worse when I took a fluid tablet and became a bit dehydrated.



#5 chiocchi

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Posted 17 November 2014 - 08:56 PM

Thank you for the advice,. I am undetectable but knowing my onc I doubt he'll agree to lowering dose. I will try splitting it though and the tonic
I'm so grateful to be able to talk to all of you that understand what I'm feeling. Blessings to you all!!

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 03:46 AM

Good quality magnesium and calcium supplements has been the only thing that has worked for me. I notice if I miss them for a few days in a row or I take a diuretic. They do make a big difference. Also try potassium in rehydration tablets (gastrolyte, hydrolyte).

Diagnosed 9 June 2011, Glivec 400mg June 2011-July 2017, Tasigna 600mg July 2017-present (switched due to intolerable side effects, and desire for future cessation attempt).

Commenced monthly testing when MR4.0 lost during 2012.

 

2017: <0.01, <0.01, 0.005 (200mg Glivec, Adelaide) <0.01, 0.001 (new test sensitivity)

2016: <0.01, <0.01, PCRU, 0.002 (Adelaide)

2015: <0.01, <0.01, <0.01, 0.013

2014: PCRU, <0.01, <0.01, <0.01, <0.01

2013: 0.01, 0.014, 0.016, 0.026, 0.041, <0.01, <0.01 

2012: <0.01, <0.01, 0.013, 0.032, 0.021

2011: 38.00, 12.00, 0.14


#7 Trey

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Posted 18 November 2014 - 10:24 AM

Taking potassium and magnesium supplements have helped reduce my cramping, which are worse when I sweat a lot during the summer heat.  The TKI drugs reduce electrolytes so supplements are a good idea.



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Posted 20 November 2014 - 08:24 PM

Magnesium oxide (400 mg) and calcium supplements work well for me.  Staying hydrated helps, too.  Mine comes and goes, so I go through a spate (like the last few weeks) where I get spasms and bad cramps. 

 

Have you figured out what triggers them?  I know anytime I squat down to look in the lower kitchen cupboards or the fridge, I'm asking for foot cramps.  So now I just make my kids do stuff for me that would otherwise trigger the cramps.  When they grow up and leave, I'll have to renovate my kitchen so I have those glide-out shelves.

 

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Posted 20 November 2014 - 09:25 PM

Yes, unfortunately I get them when I first lie down in bed at night. I try not to turn on my side as that does trigger them. My friend, a massage therapist showed how to stretch them out when they start. I did start splitting the dose and I'm afraid to believe it but I feel less crampy already! I will start magnesium also.
Will splitting the dose cause any problems ? I'm getting the full dose over 24 hours so I don't believe it'll be a problem. I'm scheduled for labs in early January then onc following,I'll discuss it with him then.

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:16 AM

Splitting dosage does not decrease effectiveness of Gleevec since it has a long half-life in the body (about 18 - 20 hours).  So you are always at a reasonable plasma concentration level either way.  I have split the Gleevec dosage since almost the start and did very well.  Sprycel has a short half-life (about 3 - 5 hours) so splitting dosage might not work as well, but there is no data either way on that.  Tasigna is normally split dosage and has a long half-life as well (15 - 17 hours).


Edited by Trey, 21 November 2014 - 11:18 AM.


#11 chiocchi

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Posted 21 November 2014 - 08:54 PM

Thanks For all the info Trey! It has definitely helped the cramping.




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