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#1 Cathy

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 10:28 AM

Well just got my numbers back and they jumped up again. My numbers never do what they are suppose to. I was Dx 5/10/10 4 long years ago and my numbers love to jump around big time.

 

Just past year

 

10/13    .1811 %

1/14      .155%

4/14      .3052%

5/14      .1933%

7/14      .1235%

10/14     .4966%

 

I was on 100 first then I was on 50 sprycel due to low counts then went to 70 mg a little over a year ago still taking 70 mg and now its up again! they are rechecking in 6 weeks.

 

I had a 3 way trans but they say that doesn't effect it, I have had mutation, BMB 2 years ago when it was up. they fiound nothing.

 

I'm sure its just going to be stay the steady course, or change if it stays up just a pain in the butt. After 4 years it should be smooth sailing!

 

Just wanted to share,

 

thanks

 

cathy


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DX 5-2010  Started normal hydra then Gleevec for 9 months stopped working

Tasigna after 5 pills pancreatis  numbers jumped up quickly

Started Sprycel 100, 8-2010  for a 3 years went down to 50 mg numbers at one point really jumped up quickly

currently on 70 mg for last 2-3 years trying to get onc to reduce dose Numbers never stabilize never MMR till 4-2017 bearly and jump up and down in and out of MMR stayed MMR for 3 months then

After 6 years on sprycel fluid on both lungs, drained still have some fluid on lungs, and currently off drug 4 months now

numbers lower then ever go figure I've never been this low of a number 

last 2 tests .0686 and .0181 !!

 


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Posted 31 October 2014 - 10:32 AM

Cathy, sorry about the numbers causing you anxiety... we ALL understand.  Just try and trust that a) you already know your numbers are jumpy and B) you are still under 1%


January 15: .53%

April 15:       .78%

July 15:      1.1% - upped dosage to 400mg after this test

Oct 15:       .85%

December 15:  .28%

March 16: .29%

July 16: .34%

October 16: .11%

January 17: .081%

April 17: .055%

July 17: .135%

Oct 17: .008%


#3 Marnie

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Posted 31 October 2014 - 07:48 PM

Hang in there.  Numbers are frustrating.  Been there (actually, I'm there right now).  Try to remember that there can be a lot of variance in test results.  The trend is what's important.  Right now, you do not have an upward trend.  You just have an annoying set of numbers.

 

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Posted 01 November 2014 - 07:55 AM

Excellent analogy, Marnie!


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"You can't change the direction of the wind but you can adjust your sails."

DX 12/08; Gleevec 400mg; liver toxicity; Sprycel 100mg.; CCyR 4/10; MMR 8/10; Pleural Effusion 2/12; Sprycel 50mg. Maintaining MMR; 2/15 PCRU; 8/16 drifting in and out of undetected like a wave meeting the shore. Retired 12/23/2016! 18 months of PCRU, most recent at Mayo on 7/25/17 was negative at their new sensitivity reporting of 0.003.<p>


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Posted 01 November 2014 - 10:20 AM

Well said well said Marie thanks

Cathy

 

DX 5-2010  Started normal hydra then Gleevec for 9 months stopped working

Tasigna after 5 pills pancreatis  numbers jumped up quickly

Started Sprycel 100, 8-2010  for a 3 years went down to 50 mg numbers at one point really jumped up quickly

currently on 70 mg for last 2-3 years trying to get onc to reduce dose Numbers never stabilize never MMR till 4-2017 bearly and jump up and down in and out of MMR stayed MMR for 3 months then

After 6 years on sprycel fluid on both lungs, drained still have some fluid on lungs, and currently off drug 4 months now

numbers lower then ever go figure I've never been this low of a number 

last 2 tests .0686 and .0181 !!

 


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Posted 03 November 2014 - 09:49 AM

Marie,

 

I'm curious how high do your numbers go? I just am looking for a comparison. This seemed like a big jump to me. Highest in 2 years I know possible lab error that is why retesting in 6 weeks. No change in medication now I was so close  MMR on test before. Just curious the degees others numbers jump around . To compare, I think you were Dx around same time I was.

 

Thanks,

Cathy


Cathy

 

DX 5-2010  Started normal hydra then Gleevec for 9 months stopped working

Tasigna after 5 pills pancreatis  numbers jumped up quickly

Started Sprycel 100, 8-2010  for a 3 years went down to 50 mg numbers at one point really jumped up quickly

currently on 70 mg for last 2-3 years trying to get onc to reduce dose Numbers never stabilize never MMR till 4-2017 bearly and jump up and down in and out of MMR stayed MMR for 3 months then

After 6 years on sprycel fluid on both lungs, drained still have some fluid on lungs, and currently off drug 4 months now

numbers lower then ever go figure I've never been this low of a number 

last 2 tests .0686 and .0181 !!

 


#7 Marnie

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Posted 03 November 2014 - 08:07 PM

Hi, Cathy.  .  . 

 

My numbers are something like this (my record-keeping hasn't been as good as it should have been in the past year. . .work is just about killing me).

9/17/09 0.200 12/7/09 0.090 3/2/10 0.059 5/11/10 0.054 8/30/10 0.100 9/27/10 0.027 11/20/10 0.147 4/25/11 0.002 (started Sprycel January) 6/28/11 0.008 8/1/11 0.002 11/11/11 0.003 1/3/12 0.060 3/20/12 0.000 6/12/13 <.001 10/9/13 0.000 1/15/13 0.000 4/10/13 detected 7/16/13 0.000 10/15/13 <.02 1/21/14 0.000 5/6/14 detected 8/12/14 0.000        9/26/14 0.180    

Unfortunately, there are some issues with my numbers because for the first few years, it was not IS. . .so those numbers are pretty meaningless, except to compare with my own trend and also, my results came from a variety of labs, especially in the first few years. . .so again. . .the numbers are not particularly meaningful.  I also do not have a starting number, as my initial onc only did a qualitative PCR test before I started Gleevec.  I have my next PCR in December, and I'm getting a little anxious about it.  After starting back on Sprycel (I was off for over a month because of pleural effusion and then the doc wanted me to have a battery of tests for lung function, because I was still having breathing issues) I did a few days of 100 mg before dropping back to 50.  Did that without doc's knowledge. . .I just started getting really paranoid and wanted to give the darned Ph+ cells a kick in the butt.

 

Anyway. . .when I look at my numbers as a whole. . they don't look all that bad.  And I'm a lot more comfortable now with the idea of not being PCRu, but being close.

 

Hope that helps!

Marnie (spelled like the Hitchcock movie about the psychotic killer, Marnie)

Not that my parents named me for that. . .



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Posted 03 November 2014 - 08:08 PM

Crap. . sorry. . .I copied and pasted cells from a spreadsheet, but it did not post that way.  My bad. . .that data is pretty impossible to read.  Sorry about that. . .

 

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 08:19 AM

Thanks Marnie, and sorry I didn't mean to misspell your name! I was just afraid my numbers went a little high this time so I wanted a comparison. I apprecaite you looking up your numbers for me.

 

The past 6-9 months I've been at the same lab my onc wanted to be consistant since my numbers do jump around a bit. But I am a little worried this time since they jumped up this high and nothing has changed! But I know we all have to roll with it. I've never been undetected and its over 4 years now close but no cigar!

 

Again thanks for replying and showimg me your results.

 

Have a good day! Give the kids heck today!

 

Cathy 


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DX 5-2010  Started normal hydra then Gleevec for 9 months stopped working

Tasigna after 5 pills pancreatis  numbers jumped up quickly

Started Sprycel 100, 8-2010  for a 3 years went down to 50 mg numbers at one point really jumped up quickly

currently on 70 mg for last 2-3 years trying to get onc to reduce dose Numbers never stabilize never MMR till 4-2017 bearly and jump up and down in and out of MMR stayed MMR for 3 months then

After 6 years on sprycel fluid on both lungs, drained still have some fluid on lungs, and currently off drug 4 months now

numbers lower then ever go figure I've never been this low of a number 

last 2 tests .0686 and .0181 !!

 


#10 Marnie

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Posted 04 November 2014 - 06:39 PM

Trey has an anology about PCRu, and the surface of the water.  Sometimes the test variability bobbles that number up and down, just like a speck on the water level.  It bobs up and bobs below the surface.  Anything below the surface is PCRu and anything above the surface is a positive number.  Even though the space between slightly above and slightly below is pretty much insignificant, it feels huge to us when we look at a number that is not zero.

 

Trey said it better.



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Posted 04 November 2014 - 10:44 PM

I think I said that PCRU is like a Baby Ruth bar floating on the swimming pool of life, and that given enough time it will sink, and then Bill Murray will come along and take a bite out of it.  And then Scuba will declare you "cured", to which I reply "DOODY!"....

 

....or was that Caddy Shack?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYrY8aFCUCQ


Edited by Trey, 04 November 2014 - 10:49 PM.


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Posted 05 November 2014 - 08:39 AM

too Funny !


Cathy

 

DX 5-2010  Started normal hydra then Gleevec for 9 months stopped working

Tasigna after 5 pills pancreatis  numbers jumped up quickly

Started Sprycel 100, 8-2010  for a 3 years went down to 50 mg numbers at one point really jumped up quickly

currently on 70 mg for last 2-3 years trying to get onc to reduce dose Numbers never stabilize never MMR till 4-2017 bearly and jump up and down in and out of MMR stayed MMR for 3 months then

After 6 years on sprycel fluid on both lungs, drained still have some fluid on lungs, and currently off drug 4 months now

numbers lower then ever go figure I've never been this low of a number 

last 2 tests .0686 and .0181 !!

 





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