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#1 tranier

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:21 PM

BJ (Prayers Please Blast Crisis-Prev Thread) had his transplant date moved from this week to Oct 24 and we found out today he has 5% peripheral blasts..Two week ago BMB showed all clean marrow.  He has been on 140 Sprycell since induction June 15 to July 16...,We meet with Cleve Clinic team tom at 11....Please pray that these cells can be controlled.  For those of you who don't know BJ s story - DX Fall 09 playing college football -etc response to Gleevec...June 10 all reports BMB PCR Fish showed MMR complete response...June 11 went into blast crisis no warning following Cleve Marathon...second translocation t9,11 found and BCR ABL retd...

He feels amazing..



#2 lehrerin

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:29 PM

BJ and your family and doctors are in our prayers! 



#3 Susan61

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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:53 PM

My prayers are with BJ and all his loved ones.  I am sure there will be plenty more praying going on as everyone reads your post.

God Bless All Of You

Susan



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Posted 04 October 2011 - 07:55 PM

So very sorry to hear about the blast cells!  Praying for BJ and your whole family!  May you be blessed with peace during this most stressful time.  Skittles



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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:30 PM

Prayers going up for BJ. Trusting is the hardest thing sometimes. Love to you and your family.



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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:47 PM

Prayers coming your way.  Keep believing.

Traci



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Posted 04 October 2011 - 08:57 PM

I would not be so concerned going into the BMT with this result.  The clean marrow from a couple weeks ago is more instructive, and the BMT will wipe out the old blood system.  It is more an issue of going into the BMT in a rather "healthy" state, which he has maintained.  As with most difficult things in life, we would always want the situation to be better than it is.  But given he is near to the BMT date, there is little reason for concern.  If he were months away, then there would be more work to do.



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Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:23 AM

Thank you all.  I will update after this morning's mtg.  Trey, I hope you are right...The rule of thumb,as you know, is to go into transplant w,o blast cells...solo I'm hoping and praying that these do not increase over next # weeks.  As I've shared BJ has not had "expected" path...Even at blast crisis this past June his white cells and spleen in normal range(In one week's time he went from discovering 8 blasts to 20 and that, as you know  was after running marathon!  I do hope his health, as you suggest, is main factor-that couldn't be better!

I would like to use this chance to encourage the especially younger CML patients to encourage your doc to have your HLA typing done and put in bone marrow registry(and why not if insurance covers it!)  Hopefully, you will never need it as BUs journey is a rare one...but it has taken us 4 months since Blast Crisis DX to finalize a match (and thank God he has two 12,12 matches!)  Because BUs first year and 1/  2 was such a great Gleevecresponse the CML specialist never foresaw this, thus we had no reason until this past June to even think SCT...My advise comes from the heart!



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Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:34 AM

Sending parayers your way



#10 nathaliece

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 02:04 PM

Sending prayers, hope and peace to BJ and his family.


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#11 tranier

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:06 PM

So the miracle didn't happen...BJ had BMB done today to see blast cell percentage...Trey he said that while blast cells can be Misunderstood when they present  w very low  white counts with normal white cell count...they are statistically big warning...They will not do transplant in two weeks w any blasts bc of effect of success on CST outcome -if BJ had original date of last week this would be mute-this reality sucks!  So when he gets results tom if more than 10 percent BJ goes in for month of chemo regime to bring back remission then transplant...if lower than ten possible to try Tasigna but doesn't recommend even trying bc of BUs past exp of going from 8% to 29 in Less than week.   Would you try the wait game -its roulette...So angry and broken as he is BJ...Any advise appreciated




#12 LivingWellWithCML

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 04:23 PM

I think about BJ often and follow your CaringBridge site.  I have prayed for his situation and will pray even harder!  I feel like I know him just from following your site and he's such a strong, positive young man - I pray for his spirits to stay as high as possible as his battle continues...


Dan - Atlanta, GA

CML CP Diagnosed March 2011

Gleevec 400mg


#13 Samcerly

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Posted 05 October 2011 - 06:50 PM

So very sorry!  I have been faithfully following BJ's story and have been so moved by your unwaivering faith.  Please know your family is in my prayers!  Sending lots of encouragement!



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Posted 05 October 2011 - 07:37 PM

I'm so sorry this has happened - I was really hoping that BJ would get to transplant with no complications at all. I am now hoping that he remains under 10% so they can still do his transplant as soon as possible. We are thinking of you both as well as your family and friends. xxx.


Diagnosed 9 June 2011, Glivec 400mg June 2011-July 2017, Tasigna 600mg July 2017-present (switched due to intolerable side effects, and desire for future cessation attempt).

Commenced monthly testing when MR4.0 lost during 2012.

 

2017: <0.01, <0.01, 0.005 (200mg Glivec, Adelaide) <0.01, 0.001 (new test sensitivity)

2016: <0.01, <0.01, PCRU, 0.002 (Adelaide)

2015: <0.01, <0.01, <0.01, 0.013

2014: PCRU, <0.01, <0.01, <0.01, <0.01

2013: 0.01, 0.014, 0.016, 0.026, 0.041, <0.01, <0.01 

2012: <0.01, <0.01, 0.013, 0.032, 0.021

2011: 38.00, 12.00, 0.14


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Posted 05 October 2011 - 08:12 PM

My thoughts and prayers are with you.  I find much strength from this site, I hope you gain strength during this hard journey.  Peace.

Loreta



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Posted 05 October 2011 - 08:25 PM

I am praying for your family.



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Posted 05 October 2011 - 10:57 PM

It is a dilemma for the Oncs.  But I look at it like this.  If the BMT chemo is stronger than the chemo used to reduce the blast count, then why do the interim chemo?  It will just delay and weaken him before starting the BMT, and does nothing toward the cure.  Chemo is not a freebie to the body -- each dosage takes its toll.  And the stats do not apply very well across the board.  The "no blasts before BMT" stats are fuzzy at best, and even then must be put into perspective.  The key is that BJ is young, and he is healthy now.  Why weaken him just to turn around and do the BMT chemo and radiation?  Why delay the BMT just to hide the symptoms and also induce something the BMT chemo would do anyway?  Do the Oncs have answers for this?

There are also other competing stats.  "The optimal time of transplantation is controversial but thought to be up to 24 months following diagnosis."

http://www.patient.c...aemia-(CML).htm

It would be difficult to find data that clearly shows the effects of blast count on BMTs in CML patients.  The following article discusses blast count and BMT survival in high risk AML and ALL patients, but these have lower probabilities of success than CML patients:

http://www.nature.co...l/1705594a.html

The stats are all over the map with regard to BMT.  Age, donor matching, disease type, and stage play a huge role.  The other stuff may just be noise level.  If a person enters blast phase, the blasts can be reduced, but the person is technically still in blast phase, although the symptoms may be suppressed for a short time.

I do not know the right answer.  There is no clear answer.  There is never enough information.  And the stats can get in the way of sound decision making when they are not properly applied.



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Posted 06 October 2011 - 03:28 PM

BJ s b m b showed 7% so the entire transplant team met at 1 and unanimously decided against one-month induction and moving transplant back again.  He gets electrocardiogram tom at 11 and will make switch from sprycel to tasigna and monitor w twice weekly labs...until Oct 24...transplant prep day.  The peripheral blasts went down one from 5 to 4...Thanks for prayers..keep them coming so BJ can get that transplant!



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Posted 10 October 2011 - 01:47 PM

Last Thurs the entire transplant team met and decided they didn't want BJ to lose Oct. 25 transplant date so instead of a 2nd round of induction they are hoping to keep him below 20 % blasts and will do transplant..We really need your prayers... The Oct 5 bmb showed 8% blasts...On Friday he switched from Sprycel  to Tasigna .

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This mornings CBC showed 7% blasts (they were 5 on 10/3 and 4 on 10/5)...

Todays counts vs  10/5s in parenthesis.....

wbc 1.68 (2.43)    Hb 12.5 (13.8)  ANC .97 (83) plates 89 (60)..

Trey I'd appreciate some input....

Team said they would start outpatient chemo if needed...next CBC and EEG (1 wk Tasigna ) check on Third

Holding on to faith and hpe..ps BJ feels and looks great!  (of course he is angry..I meant other than xml health-wise...oxymoron huh!



#20 Txmom.4

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Posted 10 October 2011 - 03:00 PM

I will pray for your family!






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