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#1 JoshLee

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 09:26 AM

So....I forgot to take my medication about two weeks ago so I bought pill divider box. This morning I woke up around 8 and I SWEAR I took it. But after I woke up again at 9:15 I looked at my pill box and noticed that Monday still had 4 pills in it (I take Tasigna). So I fretted for a while and then I realized that some people take 800mg a day instead of 600mg. So I took another full pill and then emptied out half of another so that tonight after my evening dose I would be at 800 mg for the day..or a little over.....If I did actually "double dose" this morning which I don't think I did, maybe this won't be a big deal? I mean, the water glass was still pretty full and the Monday box was full...But the bottle I store all my Tasigna in sits next to my pill divider so I don't know if I just randomly took my meds out of there? Needless to say...That pill bottle went into the kitchen cabinet. I really HATE when I can't remember if I took my morning dose. The evening is so easy because I know I am fasting for a reason. In the morning, I just wake up and take it and then go back to sleep for a little bit. Sometimes though, I honestly can't remember if it was a dream or not? Here's to hoping I don't drop dead!



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Posted 05 September 2011 - 10:31 AM

Hi...here's hoping you don't drop dead....funny!  I think many of us have done the same thing!  I often tell my daughter when I am taking my pills just incase I wonder if I took them!  We all do so many things without really thinking!  I, too, use a pill box........swore I'd never use one of those!!!!  Thought they were for old grandmas!  ;). I'll let the medical people answer your too much medicine concern......just wanted you to know I chuckled when I read your last line......thinking about the times I wondered if I had done the same thing!!!!!!!!  Lala



#3 susanlathers

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 01:08 PM

This is one of the issues of Tasigna I hate,  I feel ruled by when I take my meds and did I eat, will I forget and eat something without realizing it.  I used to take my pm dose at 4 am.  Try remembering that one. Now I have switched to 11 and 11.  2 pills at 11 am and 1 at 11 pm. If I miss the am dose I take 2 at night instead of the 1. I have gotten to the place where if I miss a dose, I miss a dose.  And actually I miss quite a few over a month time.  I am trying to look at QOL.  On Sunday I go out to eat after church and always miss that dose.  If I am doing something really dangerous I hope someone on these boards will draw me up and put me in my place.  I don't want to lead anyone to follow my example if it is dangerous.  I guess I will know when I have my next PCR in Oct.  My goal has been to get the the lowest dose possible but after thinking it over I would rather have the freedom to miss doses if necessary and not worry if I can maintain my PCRU status.

Again I want to say, don't follow my example, follow your Dr.'s

Susan



#4 JoshLee

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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:04 PM

Susan,

     I am no expert, but I do know that it is extremely important that you ALWAYS take your meds. I've heard experts say that even missing two doses a month can really hurt your chances at achieving a good response to these drugs. When I've missed, it has been out of pure confusion and not wanting to double up. I think doubling up is NOT good in general and knowingly skipping a dose is quite frankly, not smart. I don't mean to be harsh, but the half life of Tasigna is like 16 or 18 hours and then it's not really doing anything for you if there isn't more to kick in. I've probably missed 3 times in the 7 months I've been taking it and they have all been due to a situation like this morning. I take that back, I skipped once because I was having extreme leg pain and insomina....But that was due to anxiety I believe. There are people on this board that have never missed in all the years they've been on the drug. Give yourself the best chance by taking your meds ALL the time. If you forget by accident a few times over the years, I bet that won't hurt, but missing a dose every Sunday is not good. Also, you don't have to do it at 12 hour intervals. I definitely used to be really strict, but now I just take it at like 7 and 6 or 6 and 8 or 6 and then at 9. The half life is long enough and I usually take them around the same time...Give or take an hour or 45 minutes.



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Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:32 PM

JoshLee

Thanks for your advice.  I will take it seriously.  Last Christmas I was going to have a special week with my whole family, which I have never had.  We were going to the mountains skiing and all sorts of snow fun.  I asked my onc if I could take one dose per day for the 1 week, that would be 400 mg at night and skip the afternoon dose because I didn't want my meds to dictate when everyone else ate meals.  She said ok.  I had been on Tasigna for 6 months and had been PCRU for 6 mo.  It had no negative effect, but I can see if maybe I did that all the time it eventually would.  Although, people who stop the TKI's after being PCRU for  a long time,  if they are going to relapse, take a number of months or years to do so. And then they go back on them and quickly go back to PCRU

  Again, if I am wrong with any of my information, please, someone correct me.  Sometimes I see or hear what I want to see or hear and not what is really being said and I wouldn't want to lead anyone else wrong.

Susan



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Posted 05 September 2011 - 06:17 PM

Joshlee,

You're not dumb, you're probaly just forgetting because of stress. If the pill box isn't helping (maybe because you have a pill bottle next to it, or because you refill it thinking you'll remember later), you can add a check list. You can always rely on black and white when colors are fuzzy, hehe! hope this helps.


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Posted 05 September 2011 - 07:14 PM

Hi:  It sounds like your getting all nervous about when to take your pills.  Your taking them twice a day.  I take my Gleevec once a day with Breakfast, therefore, I never forget to take it.  It does not matter if I eat a early Breakfast or Late breakfast as long as I get my pill in me.  If I take my pill without a meal  I have nausea.

    I believe your taking your Tasigna on a empty stomach.  Can you set an alarm for the proper time to take it.  I think I would get confused myself with taking it at different times.  Try to pay attention to your pill box also.  You will work out a routine for yourself I am sure.

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Posted 06 September 2011 - 07:37 AM

Hi all ~  for what it is worth, I have 'confessed' to my doctor about missing the occasional dose of tasigna (I forget my evening one - not my morning one).  My doctor said as long as it doesn't become a habit - missing one every once in a while is OK.  He said at least you're getting the 1 dose - unlike others who are 1x per day and miss a days dose entirely.

Just thought I'd share .



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Posted 06 September 2011 - 09:45 AM

I'm on a study so I need to keep a research medication diary where I mark down the times I take my Tasigna.  It is basically a monthly calendar where I write down my morning time and then my evening time.  I find that this helps me keep control of taking my pills.  I find it very useful when traveling across time zones as I mark down the times in both time zones (where I am and where I live) so that I can stay on a relatively normal schedule, even with the time change.  Additionally I receive my pills in bottles (not in the blister packs).  Each morning before leaving for work I put 4 pills into an empty bottle and take that with me to work.  Before I leave work I take my 2 evening pills and have 2 left in that bottle.  The next morning when I wake up I take the other 2 pills and thus empty that bottle.  I then put 4 more pills into the bottle before going to work (and repeat daily).  So I'd know pretty quickly if I forgot to take my pills.  My "challenge" is that sometimes I will take my pills but then wonder if I actually took 1 or two pills.  Since my bottle should only have 2 or 4 pills I can easily check if I didn't take the correct dosage.



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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:13 PM

Hi Josh,

I was getting all messed up especially morning meds.A couple are important to keep tract of. I am not a morning person. I keep all my meds in those daily dose containers that you can fill for a week.

I keep my pills in the kitchen but I'm not on tasigma but I do take divided doses of the same med more than once a day. Even keeping them in the br helps. I bought a slate or plastic marker that has magnets and just put it on my fridge or br mirror they stick to a lot of things and replacement pens of all kinds work and wipe right off. As soon as I take a med I write it down  it's mostly the morning meds that are the hardest the rest of the day just look in the days pills and if the pill is gone you took it and if not just take it.You don't even have to think about it just scribble on the board what you took that will keep your day organized you will automattically take the right med. Because there are not that many meds you have to take at the exact same time everyday.But I make sure I take the important one everyday. Just look in that compartment and see whats left. I just bought 2 more pill holders so I can measure 3 weeks of meds at one time. I just have to remember what day it is. Sometimes I take xanax I'll be pretty nervous sometimes mornings are the worst but I'll take a half of one and have my coffee and go on with my day. So I just write down wed-x-8.30am I can take a whole one but I just take half and if that doesn't work I take the other half. But that's the only med I really want to keep tract of. I don't want to turn into a zombie. HEAR Ye Hear Ye  I now take 100mg Spryce every other day and 50mg Sprycel every other day. Boy I'm really up the creek without a paddle. I told you my schedule,  Help Help. I'm finishing glass of wine ##3 it's been a rough week. I need a new schedule.

lol Billie



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Posted 07 September 2011 - 11:58 PM

Hi Josh, I'm back,

  Try to calm down, right now I am very anemic and my Iron level is 3 and it's supposed to be 20. Go figure thats my luck. I have to have 5 iron infusions 1 every week.They are not bad just a pain in the butt. Every time they tell me stuff like this I really panic and start writing my obit. I just had my 3rd infusion yesterday I feel less tired after about 3 -4 days after treatment then I get tired again but it takes a while. The infusion takes 2 hours and I had one yesterday and my hands swelled up and my legs got stiff. Well you know we took it with a grain of salt. Bulls**t I wanted to call 911. I didn't and nothing happened. But it was scary.So we all know how you feel. Everyone of us who have had your stages of cml understand no matter what comes up and what might show up have been there. Just remember we are all all here and we have all been where you are  Boy do I sound brave. But after 4 years and a wonderful doctor I'm still here I think we are all blessed.

Take Care and think Positive,that's what keeps me going                    LOL Billie






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