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[thatguy]

Curious what everyone's AST, ALT, BILI, and wbc hangs around. Any volunteers?

[ROMO]

My AST and ALT hangs around the bar.

My WBC hangs around the voting booth.

And my,  bili, "I don't know that guy.

 

Romo having fun...

[thatguy]

Lol alright

[tiredblood]

ALT and AST bounces around within reference range
Bili low end of reference range with the last two slightly below normal
WBC slightly elevated. I think I've only had two since 11/2013 within the high side of reference range.

[Buzzm1]

ALT last 2 1/2 years 

ALT

0 - 36 U/L

23 27 29 30 28 25 23 32 27

28
 

 

WBC last 2 years 

3.5 - 12.5 K/uL

10.1 9.1 11.2 8.6 10.1 12.2 12.0 11.0 11.9 10.8
 

[thatguy]

Man, you guys are lucky...I should've asked "anyone on full dose tki" haha.

[xxgirl]

Hi thatguy. Also on bosulif 500mg. ALT and AST firmly in the middle of reference range, almost without fail. Billirubin low end of normal .5 for my past few tests, although it was

[xxgirl]

Sorry...it was double the high end of the range when I was on 800mg tasigna.

Have your numbers been coming in wonky?

[xxgirl]

WBC are low normal. 4-5.

[cmljax]

My wbc has been normal (5 - 6) since about 3 weeks into treatment.  Had slightly elevated ALT and bili about 3 months into treatment but this only lasted about 3 months.  All are normal now.

[thatguy]

Hi thatguy. Also on bosulif 500mg. ALT and AST firmly in the middle of reference range, almost without fail. Billirubin low end of normal .5 for my past few tests, although it was

Yeah, they've been slightly elevated pretty much since starting on Gleevec, but got the results from Monday's test and ALT was almost double the upper limit, and AST was like 10 over the upper limit. I'm not worried about it really, as I did start weight lifting again this past week. Weird thing was my WBC usually sticks around 6.6k, but it was low at 4.3k. BILI was normal, and PCR was thankfully it's best yet, @ .0270.

[Buzzm1]

PCR was thankfully it's best yet, @ .0270.

Congrats on your .0270 best PCR yet and thanks for keeping your CML history updated.

[kat73]

I read somewhere recently that it's the ratio between the two that is more important.  Should be close to 1:1. 

[xxgirl]

Yeah, they've been slightly elevated pretty much since starting on Gleevec, but got the results from Monday's test and ALT was almost double the upper limit, and AST was like 10 over the upper limit. I'm not worried about it really, as I did start weight lifting again this past week. Weird thing was my WBC usually sticks around 6.6k, but it was low at 4.3k. BILI was normal, and PCR was thankfully it's best yet, @ .0270.

 

The new highs could certainly be the weight training.  If you have any concern, you could always call/email your doctor and ask their opinion.  When my bilirubin was double, my doctor didn't even mention it, it was just me with my tendency to go over my own labs with a fine tooth comb.  That issue, (if it was an issue at all) resolved itself.

 

Congratulations on the new low PCR.  May that trend continue. 

[rcase13]

My ALT and AST blipped high when i recently changed blood pressure meds and had a bad reaction. Before that it was always pretty low. I do not drink alcohol. My Bili has always run in the high normal.

 

WBC: 7.9, 8.3,5.4, 6.2, 6.9, 7.7, 6.3

ALT: 34, 71, 42, 27, 25, 21, 16, 27

AST: 23, 30, 28, 19, 18, 18, 16, 22

Bili: 1.4, 0.8, 1.3, 1.1, 1.3, 1.0, 0.9, 0.9

[JohnFromChicago]

My ALT and AST were ALWAYS high 2-3x the upper limit for years before I was diagnosed. My BUN RATIO was also almost always high although I can not recall by how much. After diagnosis I have not had a single ALT, AST or BUN test out of range. I will explain...

 

I always blamed my high ALT, AST, BUN on weightlifting (muscle tissue damage) since I have lifted weights heavy 5 times a week since I was 18. Doctors always blamed it on protein powder but they were never overly concerned so I never changed anything. When I was diagnosed with CML at 28 my oncologist had told me to stop taking protein powder which I thought was very annoying and unnecessary but I did anyways. I switched over to liquid egg whites which are incredibly more expensive for the quantity I consume (10oz in the Morning, 10oz Post Workout...equivalent to 20 egg whites per day). I was incredibly surprised to see literally my first AST/ALT/BUN in my adult life all to come back all normal in range after making the switch. I have continued to lift weights actually even harder heavier and more squats, deadlifts, ect in the last two years than ever. Also, I have consumed alcohol (probably more than I should) on weeklong vacations and had labs done upon returning Monday and still all in range. The protein powder was certainly to blame. Maybe you don't take protein powder, but if you do or any other supplements like creatine definitely something to consider. 

 

 

PS. Congrats on .027!!!

[MACELPatient]

Coming from a CEL (not CML) patient, here are my levels. from my latest blood work in September.

ALT - 32 (0-40)

AST - 24 (0-40)

Total Bili - 0.8 (0-1.5)

WBC - 6.2 (4-10)

[thatguy]

Thanks for all the info and well-wishes everybody.

[thatguy]

Btw, John, although I have veggie based MRM powder in the cupboard, I rarely consume it. After I guess about a 1 year gym hiatus, I'm finally dusting off that equipment I swore I'd use when I stuffed it in my garage. Sounds like you're a lot more diligent than me. Have you considered just buying liquid pasteurized egg whites at the grocery store? Probably a significant savings, even if you'd have to increase consumption.

[thatguy]

The new highs could certainly be the weight training. If you have any concern, you could always call/email your doctor and ask their opinion. When my bilirubin was double, my doctor didn't even mention it, it was just me with my tendency to go over my own labs with a fine tooth comb. That issue, (if it was an issue at all) resolved itself.

Congratulations on the new low PCR. May that trend continue.

Thank you, I'm assuming you're doing well yourself? I know earlier on you were having some issues. I hope they've resolved...