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#1 cmljax

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 12:02 PM

My oncologist reduced my Tasigna dosage to 150 MG about 3 weeks ago.  This is 1 tablet per day and he said it didn't matter when I took it each day. Because of fasting requirements of Tasigna I take it in the morning because my first meal is not until around noon.

 

Does anyone here have any experience or advice for what time I take this 1 pill? I have some nagging side effects that have not subsided much since the dose reduction, so I am just wondering if evening or night time would be better than morning.  Thanks


Dx 9/26/16 WBC 28800; platelets 749; FISH 97% PCR 43%

Tasigna 600MG per day

October 2016                     PCR 22% IS

November 2016                 PCR 5.8% IS

December 2016                 PCR 0.1% IS  MMR!!

March 10, 2017                 PCR 0.006% IS  MR 4.22

Tasigna 450MG per day

April 5, 2017                      PCR <.003% IS

June 5, 2017                     PCR <.003% IS (dose reduction validated!!!)

Tasigna 300MG per day starting June 15, 2017

6-day drug break starting June 20, 2017 due to multiple AE's

July 24, 2017                     PCR <.003% IS

September 18, 2017          Negative, AKA PCRU

Tasigna 150mg per day starting 9/18/17

October 30, 2017               Negative

December 11, 2017           Negative


#2 tiredblood

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 12:35 PM

When I reduced to 150mg twice daily, my hem/onc told me he really wasn't concerned if I didn't wait the 1 or 2 hours before/after eating, since I was on a reduced dose. 

 

While on the full dose, I'd take my first as soon as my feet hit the floor and the second right before my hour long drive home from work.  I always found it easier to take in one hour before versus two hours after.

 

I just re-read your post about continuing to have nagging side effects, so I'd suggest taking on an empty stomach, waiting the one/two hours-- which ever the case may be.  IIRC, food with the drug makes you have a higher concentration of the drug in your body.  Maybe you could experiment a little or keep a diary on what time of day you take it and what time of day you experience your worst side effects and adjust accordingly.  Honestly, I think these are powerful drugs and rough on our bodies.  Not sure there is a good answer.  I changed to 1/2 usual dose of Gleevec from 1/2 usual dose of Tasigna and continued to have SEs.  I do feel better overall on Gleevec, but not without SEs.



#3 cmljax

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 01:16 PM

Thanks tiredblood - I have always maintained the required fasting ritual with Tasigna, so I do not think that is it. Right now I am taking my pill around 8 AM and not eating until around noon.

 

Worst continuing side effect is dry mouth/swollen salivary glands. This issue worsens progressively through the day and usually peaks between 7 and 9 PM. I am on a bazillion things to combat - Caphosol mouthwash; pilocarpine drops; various Biotene products; sugafree gum; sugar-free lemon drops; nothing to drink except plain water.  The dose reductions have reduced the severity of this issue but it is still with me.

 

At the end of the day, I know I am very lucky compared to many on TKI's.  My response has permitted rapid dose reduction which has alleviated most serious side effects, which included a 4 month outbreak of skin cancers, persistent but benign premature atrial contractions and multiple swollen salivary gland incidents. Perhaps I am asking for too much to want this last side effect to go away. The goal is to try cessation in 2 more years if I continue to maintain better than MR 4.5.


Dx 9/26/16 WBC 28800; platelets 749; FISH 97% PCR 43%

Tasigna 600MG per day

October 2016                     PCR 22% IS

November 2016                 PCR 5.8% IS

December 2016                 PCR 0.1% IS  MMR!!

March 10, 2017                 PCR 0.006% IS  MR 4.22

Tasigna 450MG per day

April 5, 2017                      PCR <.003% IS

June 5, 2017                     PCR <.003% IS (dose reduction validated!!!)

Tasigna 300MG per day starting June 15, 2017

6-day drug break starting June 20, 2017 due to multiple AE's

July 24, 2017                     PCR <.003% IS

September 18, 2017          Negative, AKA PCRU

Tasigna 150mg per day starting 9/18/17

October 30, 2017               Negative

December 11, 2017           Negative


#4 Lori's okay

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 04:05 PM

My only two bits are that I found if I took Tasigna just before bed I did not sleep as well, even a few hours before bedtime was better.  Congratulations on getting to PCRU on such a low dose!


DX 09-2011 PCR 8.08 not IS WBC 17 , Began Tasigna 600mg  

in 2012 Tasigna 450mg/day ,in 2013-2017 Tasigna 300mg/day

DATE/PCR

09-11/ 8.08 not IS

03-12/ 0.054 not IS

06-12/ 0.035 not IS

09-12/ PCRU, 01-13/ PCRU

4-13/ 0.042 IS

7-13/ 0.014 IS

11-13/ PCRU, 04-14/ PCRU

8-14/ 0.006 IS

PCRU: 12-14/ 05-15/ 10-15/ 02-16/ 

09-16/ 02-17/ 09-17/ 

10-17 tapered off 

11-3-17 Stopped Tasigna

1-15-18 still PCRU

 


#5 jjg

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Posted 14 October 2017 - 05:13 PM

Experiment and see what works best for you. Keep some form of record. I would give each time slot at least a week maybe even a month as side effects often cycle. Sometime you can sleep through side effects so a night time dose is good. But if the side effect keeps you awake it's not good at all. This is likely quite a personal thing.


Dx Dec 2010 @37

2x IVF egg collection

Glivec 600 & 800mg

PCRU March 2012

Unsuccessful pregnancy attempt - relapsed, 3 months interferon (intron A), bad side effects from interferon

Nilotinib 600mg Oct 2012

PCRU April 2013, 2 years MR4.5 mostly PCRU with a few blips

April 2015 stopped again for pregnancy attempt (donor egg), pregnant first transfer, 0.110 at 10wks, 2.1 at 14wks, 4.2 at 16wks, started interferon, slow dose increase to 25MIU per wk, at full dose PCR< 1 for remainder of pregnancy

Healthy baby girl Jan 2016, breastfed one month

Nilotinib 600mg Feb 2016

MMR May 2016

PCRU Feb 2017


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 05:24 PM

cmljax - I don't think you are asking for too much - it seems to me you've suffered plenty!  I for one grant you full kvetching rights.  I think you're gonna get to the TFR Promised Land.


Dx July 2009 on routine physical.  WBC 94.  Started Gleevec 400 mg Sept 2009.  MMR at 2yrs.  Side effects (malaise, depression/anxiety, fatigue, nausea, periorbital edema) never improved.  Kidney issues developed because of Gleevec.  Switched to Sprycel 70 mg in Aug 2011.  Above side effects disappeared or improved.  Have been MR3.5 - 4.5 ever since.  Two untreated pleural effusions followed by one treated by stopping Sprycel Jan 2017.  After 9 weeks, PCR showed loss of MMR; re-started Sprycel at 50 mg and in 3 months was back to <0.01% IS.  Pleural effusion returned within a couple of months, same as before (moderate, left side only).  Stopped Sprycel 50 mg for 12 weeks; pleural effusion resolved.  At about a monthoff the drug, PCR was 0.03; at 11 weeks it was 2.06 - lost CCyR? Have returned to 50 mg Sprycel for 3 weeks, intending to reduce to 20 mg going forward.





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