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#1 Dom

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 03:09 PM

I have medicare part D, and I pay about $6,500 a year for both premium and co-pay on all my medication (I take more than just imatinib, but imatinib is the lion's share).  

 

I'm looking at Medicare advantage plans, because they provide more coverage for other things, especially home care (which will come sooner or later).  I'm surprised that, looking at AARP, the plans will cost $12,000 a year, more than twice what I pay on regular Part D.

 

Does anyone have Medicare advantage?  


Diagnosed in February 2014. Started Imatinib 400 in April.
2014:     3.18     0.91
2015:     0.22     0.16     0.04     0.55
2016:     0.71     0.66

(Started Imatinib 600 in April 2016)
2016:     0.42     0.13     0.45
2017:     0.17     0.06     0.10     0.06     0.34


#2 Buzzm1

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Posted 19 August 2017 - 10:49 PM

Dom, a 2018 Medicare Advantage plan will cost you anywhere from $90 to, $150/mo.; your drug cost will be dependent on their drug plan.  As you know, in 2017, excluding Kaiser, Express Scripts through Walmart offered the best price on generic Imatinib.

 

Info on the 2018  Medicare Advantage plans will be available in November.

 

While In the Donut Hole, Consumers pay:

2018: 35% for brand-names and 44% for generics
For 2018, the Medicare Donut Hole will be $3,750 to $5,000.
 
For generics, that means $5,000 out of pocket before reaching the 5% catastrophic phase.
 
For most Social Security recipients, the yet-to-be-determined 2018 Social Security COLA increase will be offset by Medicare and Medicare supplemental increases. New Medicare recipients are paying $134/mo for Part B. I'm currently paying $111/mo. and I expect a $23/mo. cost increase.
 
A rough guess would be a 1.7% 2018 SS COLA
 
2016 Q3 235.057
2016 Q4 235.446
2017 Q1 237.329
2017 Q2 238.618
2017 Q3
2917 Q3 is the average of July 238.617 August, and September http://bit.ly/2tPkeTb

For the benefit of yourself and others please add your CML history into your Signature

 

02/2010 Gleevec 400mg

2011 Two weakly positives, PCRU, weakly positive

2012 PCRU, PCRU, PCRU, PCRU

2013 PCRU, PCRU, PCRU, weakly positive

2014 PCRU, PCRU, PCRU, PCRU (12/07 began dose reduction w/each continuing PCRU)

2015 300, 250, 200, 150

2016 100, 50/100, 100, 10/17 TFR

2017 01/17 TFR, 04/18 TFR, 07/18 TFR 0.0012, 08/29 TFR 0.001, 10/17 TFR 0.000

2018 01/16 TFR 0.0004 ... next quarterly PCR 04/17

 

At the earliest opportunity, and whenever possible, lower your TKI dosage; TKIs are toxic drugs and the less we take longterm the better off we are going to be ... this is especially true for older adults.  

 

In hindsight I should have started my dosage reduction two years earlier; it might have helped minimize some of the longterm cumulative toxic effects of TKIs that I am beset with.  

 

longterm side-effects Peripheral Artery Disease - legs (it's a bitch); continuing shoulder problems, right elbow inflammation.   GFR and creatinine vastly improved after stopping Gleevec.

 

Cumulative Gleevec dosage estimated at 830 grams

 

Taking Gleevec 400mg an hour after my largest meal of the day helped eliminate the nausea that Gleevec is notorious for.  

 

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#3 chriskuo

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Posted 20 August 2017 - 12:55 AM

Dom,

 

What is your apples to apples comparison?

 

With original Medicare, you buy a Medicare Supplement and Medicare Part D separately.  With Medicare Advantage, things are rolled into 1 plan.  In general, the cost of Medicare Advantage should not be significantly more expensive than the cost of a supplement plus Part D.

 

With Medicare Advantage, there are usually added benefits to attract subscribers and the plan sponsor gets funding sweeteners from the Federal government.

 

My former employer switched our retiree plan this year from Medicare Supplement + Part D to Medicare Advantage because it is cheaper for the employer (self-insured) because of the Federal incentives. 



#4 Gail's

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:34 PM

Does anyone know if medicare or the supplemental plan recognizes parity for oral cancer drugs? I'm being quoted horrible drug costs as I approach starting medicare. As a resident of Oregon, my current insurance doesn't charge anything for sprycel now. If Medicare or the supplemental plan doesn't recognize the parity laws, why not? I read today that now 21 states have oral cancer med parity laws so this could affect a lot of us boomers.
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088

#5 Buzzm1

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Posted 21 August 2017 - 09:51 PM

Parity is in regard to state regulated programs; Medicare is a federal program.  


For the benefit of yourself and others please add your CML history into your Signature

 

02/2010 Gleevec 400mg

2011 Two weakly positives, PCRU, weakly positive

2012 PCRU, PCRU, PCRU, PCRU

2013 PCRU, PCRU, PCRU, weakly positive

2014 PCRU, PCRU, PCRU, PCRU (12/07 began dose reduction w/each continuing PCRU)

2015 300, 250, 200, 150

2016 100, 50/100, 100, 10/17 TFR

2017 01/17 TFR, 04/18 TFR, 07/18 TFR 0.0012, 08/29 TFR 0.001, 10/17 TFR 0.000

2018 01/16 TFR 0.0004 ... next quarterly PCR 04/17

 

At the earliest opportunity, and whenever possible, lower your TKI dosage; TKIs are toxic drugs and the less we take longterm the better off we are going to be ... this is especially true for older adults.  

 

In hindsight I should have started my dosage reduction two years earlier; it might have helped minimize some of the longterm cumulative toxic effects of TKIs that I am beset with.  

 

longterm side-effects Peripheral Artery Disease - legs (it's a bitch); continuing shoulder problems, right elbow inflammation.   GFR and creatinine vastly improved after stopping Gleevec.

 

Cumulative Gleevec dosage estimated at 830 grams

 

Taking Gleevec 400mg an hour after my largest meal of the day helped eliminate the nausea that Gleevec is notorious for.  

 

Trey's CML BlogStopping - The OddsStop Studies - Discussion Forum Cessation Study

Big PhRMA - Medicare Status - Social Security Status - Deficit/Debt


#6 chriskuo

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 02:47 AM

And as we know all too well, Medicare is not allowed to negotiate drug prices with manufacturers.



#7 Gail's

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Posted 22 August 2017 - 01:10 PM

Work is being done on parity at the federal level, but note medicare will require even more changes to have parity for oral cancer mess.
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Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088




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