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#1 survenant

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 01:45 AM

See CML causes



#2 jmoorhou

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 05:29 PM

I retired and laid in the sun everyday for two years (I live in CA), and I think the depleted ozone layer caused radiation to get through to me.

 

I think Scuba said that's probably not possible, so now I think it was benzene in drinking water, I used to buy three forms of water and never drank tap, then I retired and wanted to save money so all I do is use a Britta filter...


Diagnosed 3/2014 WBC 28 Non detectable within 3 monthsGleevec 400 mg 5/2014 one hour after dinner really improves nausea300 mg 12/15/2016200 mg and 300 mg Gleevec 2/25/2017 (after 3 years on Gleevec) For last four months taking 300 mg per day. Last CMC showed liver enzymes elevated, went to a good Naturopath and he recommended 4 Tumeric, 10,000 mg Vitamen D, and 3 milk thistle (silymarin) daily. Also use One<p>Day Detox Dandeloin tea, and Nettle Tea and a slice of ginger every day...in two months liver tests were below normal.Janis

#3 CallMeLucky

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Posted 07 January 2016 - 10:12 PM

The Devil?
Date  -  Lab  -  Scale  -  Drug  -  Dosage MG  - PCR
2010/Jul -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 1.2%
2010/Oct -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.25%
2010/Dec -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.367%
2011/Mar -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.0081%
2011/Jun -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2011/Sep -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.00084%
2011/Dec -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2012/Mar -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.004%
2012/Jun -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2012/Sep -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2012/Dec -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2013/Jan -  Quest  -  IS  -  Sprycel  -  50-60-70  - 0%
2013/Mar -  Quest  -  IS  -  Sprycel  -  60-70  - 0%
2013/Apr -  CUMC  -  Non-IS  -  Sprycel  - 50 - 0.036%
2013/May -  CUMC  -  Non-IS  -  Sprycel  - 50 - 0.046%
2013/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 50 - 0.0239%
2013/Jul -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0192%
2013/Jul -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0034%
2013/Oct -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0054%
2014/Jan -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0093%
2014/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.013%
2014/Apr -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.0048%
2014/Jul -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2014/Nov -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.047%
2014/Dec -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Sep -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Dec -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2016/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.0228%
2016/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2016/Sep -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2016/Dec -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Sep -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Dec - Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  -  100 - 0%
 

 


#4 hannibellemo

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 06:47 AM

I don't even go down that road.


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DX 12/08; Gleevec 400mg; liver toxicity; Sprycel 100mg.; CCyR 4/10; MMR 8/10; Pleural Effusion 2/12; Sprycel 50mg. Maintaining MMR; 2/15 PCRU; 8/16 drifting in and out of undetected like a wave meeting the shore. Retired 12/23/2016! 18 months of PCRU, most recent at Mayo on 7/25/17 was negative at their new sensitivity reporting of 0.003.<p>


#5 Cool Hand Leuk

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 08:34 AM

Low D3 levels and Radon Gas exposure



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Posted 08 January 2016 - 10:01 AM

I retired and laid in the sun everyday for two years (I live in CA), and I think the depleted ozone layer caused radiation to get through to me.

 

The sun's radiation is not sufficient to get through the skin to the bones where blood cells are made. Skin cancer, perhaps, but not blood cancer due to sun radiation.

 

X-rays from cat scan machines, however, produce a lot of penetrating x-rays that will affect internal organs including bone marrow.

 

http://www.ratical.o...yInSunComp.html


Diagnosed 11 May 2011 (100% FiSH, 155% PCR)

with b2a2 BCR-ABL fusion transcript coding for the 210kDa BCR-ABL protein

 

Sprycel: 20 mg per day - taken at lights out with Quercetin and/or Magnesium Taurate

6-8 grams Curcumin C3 complex.

 

2015 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

2016 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale) 

March        2017 PCR:     0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

June          2017 PCR:     "undetected"

September 2017 PCR:     "undetected"


#7 SusanL

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Posted 08 January 2016 - 01:14 PM

what about 36 radiation treatments for breast cancer???



#8 SunNsand

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 12:29 AM

what about 36 radiation treatments for breast cancer???


I've seen a few CML'ers comment in various groups that they previously had breast cancer.

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 01:01 PM

Yup.  I had a summer of daily radiation - 36 sounds about right.


Dx July 2009 on routine physical.  WBC 94.  Started Gleevec 400 mg Sept 2009.  MMR at 2yrs.  Side effects (malaise, depression/anxiety, fatigue, nausea, periorbital edema) never improved.  Kidney issues developed because of Gleevec.  Switched to Sprycel 70 mg in Aug 2011.  Above side effects disappeared or improved.  Have been MR3.5 - 4.5 ever since.  Two untreated pleural effusions followed by one treated by stopping Sprycel Jan 2017.  After 9 weeks, PCR showed loss of MMR; re-started Sprycel at 50 mg and in 3 months was back to <0.01% IS.  Pleural effusion returned within a couple of months, same as before (moderate, left side only).  Stopped Sprycel 50 mg for 12 weeks; pleural effusion resolved.  At about a monthoff the drug, PCR was 0.03; at 11 weeks it was 2.06 - lost CCyR? Have returned to 50 mg Sprycel for 3 weeks, intending to reduce to 20 mg going forward.


#10 Harper3994

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 02:19 PM

I had Mammo-Site radiation for breast cancer....targeted radiation twice a day for 5 days. My blood work was fine before I had that.

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 03:22 PM

My story include four (for sure, maybe more) abdominal ct scans in the two years prior to diagnosis. In childhood I had TB so got weekly chest X-rays for a year then monthly for another year. Wish I knew the levels of radioactive exposure I had in the 50s due to releases at Hanford where I grew up. This exposure is certainly suspicious for causing my cancer.
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088

#12 xGunner

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Posted 10 January 2016 - 03:49 PM

I blame the lack of social media when I was growing up.



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Posted 10 January 2016 - 06:42 PM

I blame the lack of social media when I was growing up.

 

I blame sunscreen.


Diagnosed 11 May 2011 (100% FiSH, 155% PCR)

with b2a2 BCR-ABL fusion transcript coding for the 210kDa BCR-ABL protein

 

Sprycel: 20 mg per day - taken at lights out with Quercetin and/or Magnesium Taurate

6-8 grams Curcumin C3 complex.

 

2015 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

2016 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale) 

March        2017 PCR:     0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

June          2017 PCR:     "undetected"

September 2017 PCR:     "undetected"


#14 Terran

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Posted 11 January 2016 - 12:59 AM

I am waiting for the news to break that the chemicals in sunscreen cause cancer. But leukemia is just bad luck, or benzene.

#15 MarieC

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 09:07 AM

Harper3994, I also had the mammo-site radiation for 5 days  twice a day. I also blame that for my CML.  For some who do not know mammo-site procedure, targeted radiation, it is a breast cancer procedure that some women who have a small cancerous breast tumor (I call it a tumor), can opt to have after the cancer is removed. The surgeon then at the same time inserts a balloon into the space that the cancer was removed.  In a few days you then go to a cancer oncologist for radiation, they insert a tubing into this balloon, and depending on how the oncologist sets up for your  body system, could be for 3 minutes or 5 minutes two times a day for 5 days. The radiation goes directly  into the  balloon space where your cancer was removed, rather than the whole surface  breast/chest area. The reasoning I opted and was a candidate for this radiation procedure, was because my cancer was small and I did not want to go every day for 30 or so days for treatment.  Some have this procedure because they work, and it is an inconvenience to go daily  or whatever their decision.

 

I then went to a follow up onc. who took my blood readings every 2 months. I had yearly mammograms  for 2 yrs everything was negative and  blood work fine.  I then moved to a different state, this onc. never took my blood test, he just would say  yrly mammos are fine.  I never questioned him.  So for 5 yrs from July 2008 to July 2013 I had all negative Mammograms.  In August of 2013 I could not shake a cold, finely went to a Dr. got bloodwork and she called me and said something is wrong, go and get another  blood test, I did, and from that, is when my Primary sent me to a cancer center, and was diagnosed with CML. Also from a BMB dx..  

Went on 400  gleevec, with all the same side effects as others.  So from aug of 2014 I have been  0.000% .   I do have low RBC,Hmg.low .Hemocrit, low  High MCV, and High MCH.   Onc. lowered me to 300 gleevec a day, and that is where I am today, and staying the same as of Dec. 2015. I do take vitamins, C, D,B Iron and anything else to help this anemia, just holding steady.  Go every 3 months for check ups.

 

No one will ever convince me this cml was not from radiation.  also I fault myself for not insisting on bloodwork with this  new onc. even tho I did have blood work once a yr from  my primary Dr.  in this new state.   I did not need this  in my later yrs, thought I would relax travel do all the things your golden yrs are supposed to represent, Things don't always work out like we want them to, can't complain tho, I am still here, enjoying each day the best I can, and somedays are a bit*h to get through, but "pluggin" on.

 

I read this forum everyday, do not participate much but get the best advice each and everyone offers.  Thanks for being there for all of us with the advice and "humor".

Marie



#16 Cool Hand Leuk

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Posted 12 January 2016 - 05:29 PM

anyone for a colonoscopy with a less then perfectly clean probe? Not looking for volunteers , just proposing what might be the cause.



#17 r06ue1

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 06:28 AM

I truly have no idea what could have caused mine, never really was exposed to radiation other than airport and dental x-rays and those were once a year at most.  

 

I did hear that microwave ovens can cause cancer if they are old and leaking (seals around the doors).  Don't know if that is true or not.  Benzene in our water, radon in the house (thought this only caused lung cancer though), just don't know.


08/2015 Initial PCR: 66.392%

12/2015 PCR: 1.573%

03/2016 PCR: 0.153%

06/2016 PCR: 0.070%

09/2016 PCR: 0.052%

12/2016 PCR: 0.036%

03/2017 PCR: 0.029%

06/2017 PCR: 0.028%

09/2017 PCR: 0.025%

12/2017 PCR: 0.018%

 

 

Taking Imatinib 400 mg


#18 snowbear

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 08:36 AM

I just blame life and luck of the draw.



#19 LAC1223

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 10:59 AM

I had radiation for 5 days a week for 6 weeks for a brain tumor - so that would get my vote.  That or just plain 'ole if it weren't for bad luck - well, you know the rest.



#20 tiredblood

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Posted 13 January 2016 - 10:02 PM

I blame my genes. 9 went and hooked up with 22 or vice versa.







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