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#1 soundoff

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 12:50 PM

EXPLORING A SWEET SOLUTION FOR CML

DECEMBER 10, 2015

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TKIs (tyrosine kinase inhibitors) such as Gleevec, Sprycel, Tasigna and Bosulif have been shown to be highly effective in blocking the leukemia signals that drive the proliferation of white blood cells (WBC) in CML. However, these medications have limited effect on the leukemic stem cells residing in the bone marrow. These stem cells are akin to smouldering embers, which can re-ignite the fire that TKIs have put out. So researchers are investigating a wide range of compounds that can selectively kill off leukemic stem cells and eradicate CML.

One of the seemingly improbable candidates is a type of honey produced by wild honey bees in Malaysia. Tualang honey is produced from the Tualang tree found in the rain forests of Malaysia, Thailand, Sumatra and Borneo. The unusual source of pollen results in a dark brown honey with a chemical composition that is different from more conventional types of honey.

Tualang honey has been shown to have a number of potential applications in medicine. It has antibacterial effects, most notably against organisms that infect burn patients, so it has been tested as a wound dressing (Nasir and colleagues. BMC Complement Altern Med 2010;10:31; Nasir and colleagues. BMC Complement Altern Med 2009;9:34).

Laboratory studies have also shown that Tualang honey has activity against breast and ovarian cancer cells (Fauzi and colleagues. Food Chem Toxicol 2011;49:871-878), and can boost the effectiveness of breast cancer drugs such as tamoxifen (Yaacob and colleagues. Evid Based Complement Alternat Med 2013;2013:989841).

A new study has now reported that Tualang honey has activity against leukemic stem cells (Nik Man and colleagues. Biomed Res Int 2015;2015:307094). Leukemia cells (called K562, originally derived from a woman with CML) were grown in the lab and different concentrations of Tualang honey were tested. The honey promoted the self-destruction (called apoptosis) of the leukemia cells, but appeared to leave healthy cells intact. How it accomplishes this isn't clear but may have to do with the honey's antioxidant properties.

It's a long way from the lab to a living person and these results are very preliminary. So it's too early to advocate consuming honey as a cure-all. But the study does illustrate the wide-ranging search and research for compounds that can kill leukemia cells, and which might be used in the future along with TKIs to eradicate CML

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#2 Harper3994

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 03:46 PM

Wow! Hope they keep studying this. It sounds very interesting.

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Posted 31 December 2015 - 07:37 PM

I intend to buy tualang honey from malaysia. Takes about 5 weeks for signed delivery. Just have to schedule delivery when I am back home from SC.
Also read that it might help w osteoporosis which I have.
I figure I have nothing to lose by having some tualang on my morning toast.
Hope some scientific studies are in the pipeline but doubt big pharma would like that.
For now, I'm happy to have sprycell, almost at the 2 yr
mark at 0.05.
Happy healthy new year to everyone.
Winespritzer

CML History....

DX-1/14....wbc....55....100mg Sprycel-1 wk after DX....periorbital edema, fatigue,

.385-4/14

.365-7/14

.13-10/14

.11-1/15

.045-4/15

.07-7/15

.06-10/15

.04-1/16

0.00- 4/16-10/17

 

70mg Sprycel...11/4/17....40 mg prednisone (7 days)....thoracentisis...10/26/17

tremendous reduction w periorbital edema and fatigue


#4 hannibellemo

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 08:26 AM

Thank you, winespritzer, Happy New Year to you and to all of us on the boards at LLS!


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"You can't change the direction of the wind but you can adjust your sails."

DX 12/08; Gleevec 400mg; liver toxicity; Sprycel 100mg.; CCyR 4/10; MMR 8/10; Pleural Effusion 2/12; Sprycel 50mg. Maintaining MMR; 2/15 PCRU; 8/16 drifting in and out of undetected like a wave meeting the shore. Retired 12/23/2016! 18 months of PCRU, most recent at Mayo on 7/25/17 was negative at their new sensitivity reporting of 0.003.<p>


#5 soundoff

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 12:07 PM

Happy New Year!

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 06:11 PM

Trying to figure out if we can eat raw honey, the tualang.I read pros and cons.
Hope springs eternal,
Winespritzer

CML History....

DX-1/14....wbc....55....100mg Sprycel-1 wk after DX....periorbital edema, fatigue,

.385-4/14

.365-7/14

.13-10/14

.11-1/15

.045-4/15

.07-7/15

.06-10/15

.04-1/16

0.00- 4/16-10/17

 

70mg Sprycel...11/4/17....40 mg prednisone (7 days)....thoracentisis...10/26/17

tremendous reduction w periorbital edema and fatigue


#7 CML2012

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Posted 01 January 2016 - 07:43 PM

What have you found in regards to the "cons" for us using the honey?
Diagnosed CML December 2012
Gleevec 400 mg
PCR 53%, 41%, 1.69%, 5.63% (Mutation test negative) September 2013
Sprycel 100 mg
PCR 1.1%, 0.2%, 0.2%, 0.6%, .09%, .06%, PCRU June 2015, PCRU Sept 2015, PCRU Dec 2015, 0.042% Mar 2016, 0.122% April 2016, 0.19% June 2016, 0.176% July 2016, .052% Sept 2016, .031% Nov 2016
Diagnosed Basel Skin Cancer December 2012, October 2014 (All cancer removed)
Diagnosed Melanoma April 2015 (All cancer removed)

#8 winespritzer

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Posted 02 January 2016 - 10:10 PM

I read that anyone who is immunosuppressed should be very cautious when consuming unpasteurized food. I was told long ago to quit the oysters and clams on the half shell and the steak tartar and the sashimi and try to eat meat a little bit cooked. Guess I am a cannibal.
I did get some manuka honey that is raw...a tsp a day on my toast.I read that ir mught help with osteoporosis. Started eating it before I read about raw honey and immunosuppresion. My blood counts are almost normal so am not sure how bad off I really am.
I do intend to get the tualang when I am home for the delivery.
Going to ask my onc when I see him very soon.
Gingerooni

CML History....

DX-1/14....wbc....55....100mg Sprycel-1 wk after DX....periorbital edema, fatigue,

.385-4/14

.365-7/14

.13-10/14

.11-1/15

.045-4/15

.07-7/15

.06-10/15

.04-1/16

0.00- 4/16-10/17

 

70mg Sprycel...11/4/17....40 mg prednisone (7 days)....thoracentisis...10/26/17

tremendous reduction w periorbital edema and fatigue


#9 gagne

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Posted 12 April 2016 - 07:54 PM

Any further update on the Tualang honey? Did your oncologist take issue with raw honey in general? I have also read about Tualang honey and I am intrigued.
April 2015 CML Diagnosed 53.4% BMB
May 2015 Started 400mg Gleevec
August 2015 2.2%
November 2015 0.062%
February 2016 0.045%
March 2016 started 400mg generic Gleevec (Sun Pharmaceutical brand)
May 2016 0.025%
September 2016. 0.007%
December 2016 0.009%
February 2017 Undetectable!
September 2017 Undetectable!




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