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#1 R0f03l

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 07:03 PM

Greetings,
 
I was diagnosed CML's been 10 months. Now with health but stable I want to go back to playing sports but many cramps being a major obstacle to the return to sports, any effort more than I do I feel cramps that make me give up doing sports and that makes me very frustrated .
 
I have to go back to sports because after treatment with imatinib I won a big belly but did not gain much weight that makes me very sad and desistimulado.
 
 
Could anyone help me?
Someone after the diagnosis of CML returned to practice sports and many felt cramps? How did they will stop? Or continue?
 
Grateful and I thank everyone.


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Posted 07 November 2015 - 08:30 PM

Magnesium supplements help the cramping muscles a lot. I had very painful cramps on imatinib until I learned from this forum to try magnesium. You can find it at a health food store or pharmacy. Certain types of magnesium work best. Scuba knows more about it. I got some pretty generic capsules that are called magnesium complex.
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088

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Posted 08 November 2015 - 11:39 PM

Magnesium is excellent - it has to be a fair bit before you'll notice though. I also take calcium phosphate capsules, as I have had phosphate loss show up on my CBCs, and the calcium helps with my cramping as well. Make sure you have enough potassium too, you can just get those re-hydrating drink sachet things from the pharmacy.

 

Scuba uses magnesium taureate from memory - I tried after his recommendation, and I can also recommend this :)


Diagnosed 9 June 2011, Glivec 400mg June 2011-July 2017, Tasigna 600mg July 2017-present (switched due to intolerable side effects, and desire for future cessation attempt).

Commenced monthly testing when MR4.0 lost during 2012.

 

2017: <0.01, <0.01, 0.005 (200mg Glivec, Adelaide) <0.01, 0.001 (new test sensitivity)

2016: <0.01, <0.01, PCRU, 0.002 (Adelaide)

2015: <0.01, <0.01, <0.01, 0.013

2014: PCRU, <0.01, <0.01, <0.01, <0.01

2013: 0.01, 0.014, 0.016, 0.026, 0.041, <0.01, <0.01 

2012: <0.01, <0.01, 0.013, 0.032, 0.021

2011: 38.00, 12.00, 0.14


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 09:44 AM

TKI's are known to deplete the body's store of Magnesium. When I had muscle cramps develop, my Oncologist suggested 250 mg "Magnesium" per day to allevieate the cramping. It worked almost instantly. Further reading on Magnesium helped me tune my use of magnesium supplements to favor some over others:

 

https://drnibber.com...s-of-magnesium/

 

I take 250 mg Magnesium Taurate every day (best for the heart) - 125mg in the morning and 125 mg just before retiring. I will also take an additional 250mg of Magnesium Citrate when I am exercising more intensely (springing and other high intensity workouts) or just feel a bit more achy after working out. Magnesium Oxide should be avoided. It doesn't absorb well and will mostly contribute to loose stools.

 

It is difficult to overdose on Magnesium - however a sure sign you are taking too much is when you find things loosening up too much in the bathroom. That's when you know to cut back. A heart patient friend of mine takes 1,000 mg of Magnesium a day. For me that is too much.

 

Magnesium is outstanding for better and deeper sleep:

http://drhyman.com/b...eral-available/

 

And Magnesium helps the heart's rhythm:

https://umm.edu/heal...ement/magnesium

 

People who maintain healthy magnesium levels have a 40% lower risk of fatal heart attack. Mg is vital for heart rhythm and electrical function.


Diagnosed 11 May 2011 (100% FiSH, 155% PCR)

with b2a2 BCR-ABL fusion transcript coding for the 210kDa BCR-ABL protein

 

Sprycel: 20 mg per day - taken at lights out with Quercetin and/or Magnesium Taurate

6-8 grams Curcumin C3 complex.

 

2015 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

2016 PCR: < 0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale) 

March        2017 PCR:     0.01% (M.D. Anderson scale)

June          2017 PCR:     "undetected"

September 2017 PCR:     "undetected"


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Posted 09 November 2015 - 10:01 AM

I don't know where you are cramping, but I get mine in my calves when playing tennis. I use a bodyhelix.com sleeve on both my calves when exercising and they do wonders. They have them for other areas of the body as well.

#6 R0f03l

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 04:14 PM

Magnesium supplements help the cramping muscles a lot. I had very painful cramps on imatinib until I learned from this forum to try magnesium. You can find it at a health food store or pharmacy. Certain types of magnesium work best. Scuba knows more about it. I got some pretty generic capsules that are called magnesium complex.

 

 

Magnesium is excellent - it has to be a fair bit before you'll notice though. I also take calcium phosphate capsules, as I have had phosphate loss show up on my CBCs, and the calcium helps with my cramping as well. Make sure you have enough potassium too, you can just get those re-hydrating drink sachet things from the pharmacy.

 

Scuba uses magnesium taureate from memory - I tried after his recommendation, and I can also recommend this :)

 

 

TKI's are known to deplete the body's store of Magnesium. When I had muscle cramps develop, my Oncologist suggested 250 mg "Magnesium" per day to allevieate the cramping. It worked almost instantly. Further reading on Magnesium helped me tune my use of magnesium supplements to favor some over others:

 

https://drnibber.com...s-of-magnesium/

 

I take 250 mg Magnesium Taurate every day (best for the heart) - 125mg in the morning and 125 mg just before retiring. I will also take an additional 250mg of Magnesium Citrate when I am exercising more intensely (springing and other high intensity workouts) or just feel a bit more achy after working out. Magnesium Oxide should be avoided. It doesn't absorb well and will mostly contribute to loose stools.

 

It is difficult to overdose on Magnesium - however a sure sign you are taking too much is when you find things loosening up too much in the bathroom. That's when you know to cut back. A heart patient friend of mine takes 1,000 mg of Magnesium a day. For me that is too much.

 

Magnesium is outstanding for better and deeper sleep:

http://drhyman.com/b...eral-available/

 

And Magnesium helps the heart's rhythm:

https://umm.edu/heal...ement/magnesium

 

People who maintain healthy magnesium levels have a 40% lower risk of fatal heart attack. Mg is vital for heart rhythm and electrical function.

 

 

 

 

I appreciate the help and all but I have a doubt that will be the only magnesium supplement helps the cramps? A power who involves a good magnesium intake also does not solve the problem?
 
For here in Brazil the price of the supplement is very expensive and I do not have the money or I will remember to take daily.
 
What are your opinions?


#7 R0f03l

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Posted 02 December 2015 - 04:14 PM

I don't know where you are cramping, but I get mine in my calves when playing tennis. I use a bodyhelix.com sleeve on both my calves when exercising and they do wonders. They have them for other areas of the body as well.

 

 
I feel my cramps throughout the body is clear that when I play football but I will feel cramps in the legs than in the upper body.
 
But I feel the greatest cramps when I do strength exercises that require enough strength (L-sit, V-sit, plank ...).
 
The protection I use the wrist was due to my extremely thin er wrist and pains quanquer thing.
 
 thanks


#8 Gail's

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Posted 03 December 2015 - 12:36 PM

I don't know how it works with Brazilian currency but could you check Amazon.com for price? Mine was pretty cheap.
Diagnosed 1/15/15
FISH 92%
BMB 9:22 translocation
1/19/15 began 400 mg gleevec
1/22/15 bcr 37.2 IS
2/6/15 bcr 12.5 IS
3/26/15 bcr 10.3 IS
6/29/15 bcr 7.5 IS
9/24/15 bcr 0.8 IS
1/4/16 bcr 0.3 IS
Started 100 mg dasatinib, mutation analysis negative
4/20/16 bcr 0.03 IS
8/8/16 bcr 0.007 IS
12/6/16 bcr 0.002 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 70 mg
4/10/17 bcr 0.001 IS
Lowered dasatinib to 50 mg
7/5/17 bcr 0.004 IS
8/10/17 bcr 0.001. Stopped TKI in prep for September surgery.
9/10/17 bcr 0.006
10/10/17 bcr 0.088




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