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#1 vbonsu9

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 02:59 PM

Dear Trey, dear all
I've just received my first Fish report after dx 3 months ago, and it reads:
'result is within normal limits (<1% of nuclei with BCR/ABL fusion).
Please what does this mean?
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#2 R0f03l

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 05:14 PM

I believe That it's alright in BCR ABL.
 You have no values with numbers?
 
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Posted 05 November 2015 - 05:36 PM

VB,

 

Fish is negative.  That is Complete Cytogenetic Response (CCyR).  Equivalent roughly to a 2 log reduction in PCR.  Next goal is Major Molecular response (MMR) which is a 3 log reduction in PCR or .1% PCR. 

 

Very good for only 3 months.  Congratulations.



#4 vbonsu9

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Posted 05 November 2015 - 06:17 PM

Many thanks for comments.

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 12:16 PM

Dear Trey, All
In addition to my Fish report, I have received the following:

BCR-ABL Rearrangement PCR, Blood:- Positive, 0.04

Kindly please tell me what it means.
Thanks.

#6 Trey

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 07:10 PM

Is this .04% ?  It must be a percentage to be useful.  If it is not clear, ask your Onc.

 

If it is a percentage, it would be MMR (3 log reduction) since you are better than .1% (also assuming your PCR uses International Standard).  So if the number is a percentage, and it is also International Standard, it is better than MMR.



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Posted 06 November 2015 - 08:53 PM

Hi Trey, i checked again and it's 0.04% international standards. What is MMR?
Thanks.

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 09:38 PM

MMR means Major Molecular response (MMR) which is a 3 log reduction in PCR or .1% PCR. 

 

Achieving this in only 3 months is a very fast response.  Outstanding. 



#9 vbonsu9

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Posted 06 November 2015 - 10:40 PM

Thanks, Trey.

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 01:29 PM

Dear Trey
I had another test, I guess PCR, and the results read:
the expression level of BCR-ABL transcripts is equivalent to international standard 0.01% BCR-ABL ratio. This is most consistent with an extremely low level positive result.
Please what does this mean? I had similar test about 3 weeks before this and it was 0.04%. I have so far been dx 4 months and on 100mg spyrcel.

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 10:32 PM

I think you are reading the standard information provided on the PCR test results sheet, and it does not mean your result was .1%.  As you said, your result was .04%, which is better than .1%. 

 

Again, you are doing much better than average.



#12 vbonsu9

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 10:54 PM

Hi Trey, the figure is 0.01% and not 0.1%

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Posted 01 December 2015 - 11:17 PM

It sounds like you have two test results, one from last month, .04% and now one today .01%, showing a slightly further reduction. If that is the case then you are doing extremely well. Keep taking your meds and continue on with life.
Date  -  Lab  -  Scale  -  Drug  -  Dosage MG  - PCR
2010/Jul -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 1.2%
2010/Oct -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.25%
2010/Dec -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.367%
2011/Mar -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.0081%
2011/Jun -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2011/Sep -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.00084%
2011/Dec -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2012/Mar -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0.004%
2012/Jun -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2012/Sep -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Gleevec  - 400 - 0%
2012/Dec -  MSKCC  -  Non-IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2013/Jan -  Quest  -  IS  -  Sprycel  -  50-60-70  - 0%
2013/Mar -  Quest  -  IS  -  Sprycel  -  60-70  - 0%
2013/Apr -  CUMC  -  Non-IS  -  Sprycel  - 50 - 0.036%
2013/May -  CUMC  -  Non-IS  -  Sprycel  - 50 - 0.046%
2013/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 50 - 0.0239%
2013/Jul -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0192%
2013/Jul -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0034%
2013/Oct -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0054%
2014/Jan -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 70 - 0.0093%
2014/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.013%
2014/Apr -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.0048%
2014/Jul -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2014/Nov -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.047%
2014/Dec -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Sep -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2015/Dec -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2016/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0.0228%
2016/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2016/Sep -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2016/Dec -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Mar -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Jun -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Sep -  Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  - 100 - 0%
2017/Dec - Genoptix  -  IS  -  Sprycel  -  100 - 0%
 

 


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Posted 02 December 2015 - 09:27 AM

Unless you provide an exact quote it is impossible for us to tell you what it means.






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