
Gleevec acid reflux vs other TKI and the levels of acid reflux
#1
Posted 19 January 2015 - 10:43 AM
I would rather not use the Prilosec but life pretty tough with out it. I did a test this weekend and I stopped taking it for 3 days and it went well until the Sunday night when all the symptoms came back. I don't really feel the heart burn anymore I just start swallowing in the back of the throat and then I get a discomfort in my throat. I took a Prilosec and it goes away pretty fast . I have only been on gleevec for 4 months and find it hard to think I developed GERD that fast . My teeth have become super sensitive with cold or hot or sweat , which could be the acid breaking down the enamel . On a good note my stomach pain has settled down after taking the Prilosec for a month. I think I am also going to see a gi specialist as soon as I catch up on some of these bills .
I guess this is few question in one . Thank you in advance .
#2
Posted 19 January 2015 - 04:39 PM
Weird I just got diagnosed with esophagitous and gastrolitous spelling is all wrong lol anyway I'm on tasigna and never had this problem before. they prescribed me Prilosec 20 mg but said I was taking a chance at knocking myself out of my good response because of the absorbtion issues with tasigna. So I really am not sure if all the tki's cause this or what?? also I'm scared now to try the Prilosec but the pain is kicking me bum
Diagnosed Oct 2013 Started 600mg of Tasigna on Nov 4th. Lowered dose a few months later to 300mg due to side affects stayed here declining PCR until March 2015 small jump from 0.0072 to 0.0083 scarred my doc into full dose of Tasigna again 600mg(been miserable since) but reached PCRU 06/15/2015(next test) and have been there ever since. Hoping to have another little one. I have the support of my doc to go off anytime, just scared to jump. might go two years PCRU but he said it wont make much of a difference. I just figured I could possibly go into a trial while preggers if I got the two years behind me.
Nov 8th 2017 went off Tasigna
Dec 1st PCRU off TKI
Jan 5th PCR Detected .0625
Feb 1st PCR Detected .7815
Added 8-6 grams Curcumin daily in Feb
March 3rd PCR Detected 3.2646 YIKES!
stopped trying for baby after February reading. will start new TKI march 16th 2017 (Sprycel)
FYI I'm not done trying for my last little one.
#3
Posted 20 January 2015 - 08:34 AM
#4
Posted 20 January 2015 - 03:46 PM
Hi Jerry,
I've had acid reflux for a number of years and it got pretty bad while on Gleevac. I would take the medication before bed and I can remember the acid actually waking me up at night. I've switched to Sprycel and still do get an acidic stomach so yes, I do think TKIs in general can impact digestion and the GI tract. I now take my meds in the morning so they'll be absorbed long before I go to bed.
Because I have a long history with reflux (even pre-CML) I saw a gastroenterologist and he did an upper endoscopy and I'm now taking a medication to help control the acid.
The issue is that medications such as PPIs and antacids can impact TKI absorption. My numbers are "OK" overall and I'm hovering around MMR although it took me a while to get here. Despite this doctors on both sides are OK with me continuing my current course of treatment because I am at high risk for esophageal issues related to acid reflux. Given that reflux is fairly new for you that probably not the case.
TKIs love an acidic environment so you'll need to weigh your level of comfort with your rate of absorption.
You could always see a GI doc for more advice but check with your oncologist as well.
I've since had a couple of follow up endoscopies and, for me, the PPI medication has helped a lot but I do get concerned with my rate of TKI absorption. So I continue to monitor on both fronts.
#5
Posted 20 January 2015 - 03:58 PM
I think the key is to time the acid reflux pill so your taking the TKI when the reflux pill is wearing off. Also take the TKI with orange juice. By the time I take my Tasigna the Pepcid has worn off and I am usually starting to burp acid... LOL if I took the TKI with orange juice I would probably burp fire!
10/01/2014 100% Diagnosis (WBC 278k, Blasts 6%, Spleen extended 20cm)
Cancer Sucks!
#6
Posted 20 January 2015 - 07:03 PM
Jerry, Yep the scope and the other fun one(colonoscopy)
Diagnosed Oct 2013 Started 600mg of Tasigna on Nov 4th. Lowered dose a few months later to 300mg due to side affects stayed here declining PCR until March 2015 small jump from 0.0072 to 0.0083 scarred my doc into full dose of Tasigna again 600mg(been miserable since) but reached PCRU 06/15/2015(next test) and have been there ever since. Hoping to have another little one. I have the support of my doc to go off anytime, just scared to jump. might go two years PCRU but he said it wont make much of a difference. I just figured I could possibly go into a trial while preggers if I got the two years behind me.
Nov 8th 2017 went off Tasigna
Dec 1st PCRU off TKI
Jan 5th PCR Detected .0625
Feb 1st PCR Detected .7815
Added 8-6 grams Curcumin daily in Feb
March 3rd PCR Detected 3.2646 YIKES!
stopped trying for baby after February reading. will start new TKI march 16th 2017 (Sprycel)
FYI I'm not done trying for my last little one.
#7
Posted 20 January 2015 - 09:54 PM
Hi Jerry,
I've had acid reflux for a number of years and it got pretty bad while on Gleevac. I would take the medication before bed and I can remember the acid actually waking me up at night. I've switched to Sprycel and still do get an acidic stomach so yes, I do think TKIs in general can impact digestion and the GI tract. I now take my meds in the morning so they'll be absorbed long before I go to bed.
Because I have a long history with reflux (even pre-CML) I saw a gastroenterologist and he did an upper endoscopy and I'm now taking a medication to help control the acid.
The issue is that medications such as PPIs and antacids can impact TKI absorption. My numbers are "OK" overall and I'm hovering around MMR although it took me a while to get here. Despite this doctors on both sides are OK with me continuing my current course of treatment because I am at high risk for esophageal issues related to acid reflux. Given that reflux is fairly new for you that probably not the case.
TKIs love an acidic environment so you'll need to weigh your level of comfort with your rate of absorption.
You could always see a GI doc for more advice but check with your oncologist as well.
I've since had a couple of follow up endoscopies and, for me, the PPI medication has helped a lot but I do get concerned with my rate of TKI absorption. So I continue to monitor on both fronts.
#8
Posted 20 January 2015 - 09:59 PM
#9
Posted 20 January 2015 - 10:10 PM
#10
Posted 20 January 2015 - 10:57 PM
Hi Jerry,
When I was on Gleevac I was on 80mg nexium it didn't interfere with my numbers at all. I read that Nexium is safe to take with Gleevac,but they change things everyday so check with Trey. I was taken off Nexium because I am on Plavix, so now I take Protonix , I have Barets and my esophagus cannot take any more damage. So far I'm still pcru. You can buy Nexium over the counter but check with your onc. first. Good Luck Billie
#11
Posted 18 February 2015 - 05:44 PM
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